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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2016 at 1:43am
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You don't make it easy, do you?   Angry   

Opening (boldly, I think) with one of Du Fu's own works to introduce him as your topic, and transporting the reader immediately into the confusion of his exile, the fear that must infest a life where home is always the one place one cannot reach, you've nonetheless plied your brush with a delicacy and a simplicity well worthy of the subject and the times.   

You offer me not a lot to criticize.  In
...the murmur
of approaching invaders
above the rush
of  waterfall
 
you manage to convey the appreciation for beauty as a thing held lightly in the face of near-constant adversity, with an undercurrent suggesting that this light hold is of necessity, for fear of shattering what comfort may be in it.  The rest of the work is much of a kind with that.

I'm sorry; I can't critique this.  I can only appreciate it.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 7:02pm
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Richard,

It is a little difficult trying to do a "Firebox critique" on poetry that like this where you seem to be (especially by your du fu reference") trying to write in the style of the Chinese poets of the very early centuries. Are you interested in that style of poetry?

"Children blithely rush through wind and rain.
The rustling rain hastens the early cold,
And geese with wet wings find high flying hard.
This autumn we've had no glimpse of the white sun,
When will the mud and dirt become dry earth?"
  ... from "Sighs of Autumn Rain"  du fu written about 754

You actually had me pulling out a poetry book I read at least twice a year, "Sunflower Splendor" (a very exhaustive collection of Chinese poetry spanning about 500 years (and over 600 pages).  As I read some, I think I see how you are trying to capture that mood.

"Grass tree know spring soon return
Every way red purple contend beauty
Poplar flower elm seeds without beauty
Only know overflow sky make snow fly  The plants all know that spring will soon return,
All kinds of red and purple contend in beauty.
The poplar blossom and elm seeds are not beautiful,
They can only fill the sky with flight like snow. "
... "Late Spring" by Han Yu (764-835)

AS nas mentioned, to the contemporary reader, some of your imagery and message can "feel" disjointed even though we DO get a clear picture of what the subject of the poem is going through.

I enjoyed it more on the 3rd and 4th read ... and I think that's a good sign that I was feeling the mood better with each read.

I am sure I did not give you much help to workshop this  but at least I am trying to provide you with feedback.

Norm
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 23rd, 2014 at 5:01pm
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Thanks for looking at this.  The location is all the same except for the recollections of escape through the different villages. It's his place of exile.  Everything touched on is there.  Cheers, Richard
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 22nd, 2014 at 6:08am
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Hi R C James

The first verse sets a good image but then the poem jumps from what seems to be the outside with the rush of the waterfall, to the spare room. Then the third verse shifts again to his exile and I found it hard to connect them all.  It feels like maybe you tried to put too much in and for anyone who doesn't know the story you based this on, it's confusing.
  
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du fu
Jan 5th, 2014 at 5:54pm
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“New ghosts complain
and old ghosts weep,
under the lowering sky
their voices cry out in the rain.”
(du fu) 



He listened for the murmur
of approaching invaders
above the rush
of  waterfall.

His spare room held
a writing desk
and stool,
with book,
candleholder
and writing brushes.

Exiled,
his country
was inside the breeze
nourishing a lotus pond;
trees adorned the sky
with plum blossoms.

He birthed images 
from an expansive heart
gone to water and crystal.
Home always in his thoughts,
moving, escaping through villages 
whose crops were thorns.

War and spring’s renewal
he juggled in his mind.
A white bird over a coursing stream,
flowers straining to open.

A flute upstairs,
a lone goose
in flight.
  
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