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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #15 - May 26th, 2007 at 5:18am
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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #14 - Oct 30th, 2006 at 2:45pm
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Well, Norm, it's up to you. You're the admin. I just find it more meaningful to discuss poetry that perhaps hasn't ever received (or has very rarely received) this kind of critical commentary. I also don't see a problem opening the door for people to contemporaries. In my opinion, if we are to write contemporary poetry it is vital to know what people are doing now, as well as then.
  
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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #13 - Oct 30th, 2006 at 2:37pm
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James,

It seems you and I are going to disagree a lot! 

First -- This forum used to have 23 poems in it that were discussed... and lost by my previous co-owner when the site got hacked and she had no backup (we lost about 8,000 posts).

Secondly -- BALANCE, please. I know from other posts you are fairly well read in the classics and I noted your knowledge of Milton (who , I think, is "ancient"???

We should try and discuss poets from all time periods. In all due deference, how many have ever heard of Feaver, Greenlaw, Farley, Redgrove and the others? They are not exactly household names like Plath and Frost.  I know of three of your names from your post and own their books --- but the others I have not seen in many anthologies to date.

I would like to discuss one or two of them here  --- but I think we should leave the "ancient" and "Archaic" comments for some OTHER cafe.

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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #12 - Oct 30th, 2006 at 2:29pm
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'I don't entirely agree with you.  Both Sylvia Plath's poem and Frost's saw a lot of activity and some excellent discussion and neither are ancient. '

Fair enough, but several places I visit have similar boards that are considerably more active in terms of posts and posters. It's hardly a gripe, just a lament.

'Heck, we have only looked at three poems, you can hardly make a judgement on range from that'

Four, surely? And of course one can, in that 0% have been written in the last 20 or 30 years.
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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #11 - Oct 30th, 2006 at 8:58am
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It's a shame this section doesn't see more activity. I suppose it's a fair distance down the page. I think this section needs more contemporary poetry. Archaisms bring me out in nasty rashes. Heh.


I don't entirely agree with you.  Both Sylvia Plath's poem and Frost's saw a lot of activity and some excellent discussion and neither are ancient.

Heck, we have only looked at three poems, you can hardly make a judgement on range from that.I think we should look at a both older and more contemporary poems.  We can learn a lot from both.
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Reply #10 - Oct 29th, 2006 at 10:25pm
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It's a shame this section doesn't see more activity. I suppose it's a fair distance down the page. I think this section needs more contemporary poetry. Archaisms bring me out in nasty rashes. Heh.
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 1:26am
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Tim,

The latest interpretation of the law is that if it can be found to be "published" on the Internet somewhere is it is being sued ONLY for educational purposes, it should not violate any copyright laws. The act of referencing it with a URL or blocking and pasting is vurtually being done for the same purposes and not for any profit motive. The key is to be sure to reference & credit the writer appropriately.

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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2006 at 1:01am
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Terenece and Norm,

i will sit down and construct some notes on the poem and then announce the posting.

Norm,

Since this is for educational purposes, are we allowed to post the poem in it's entirety without infringing copyright laws? Her poems are still "newer" compared to those laws.

~tim
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 11:55pm
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Go for it, Tim -- I'm game.

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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 10:06pm
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That's a good choice, Tim, among others I hadn't previously read. It seems that, after one gets past the obvious metaphors, there are some interesting interplays that make one ponder the true intent.
  
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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 3:39pm
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Hello All,

Since Norm's personal challenge, i have been reading Sylvia Plath's "Nick and the Candlestick" over and over again. i would be willing to set up the poem and test what little i've gained from my months of dissection. Perhaps someone else might come along with insight to some of those infamously difficult, yet vivid, lines.

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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2006 at 3:38am
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This might not be a good idea given past comments about Emily Dickinson, but at some time I would be interested in getting an understanding as to why, for instance, "The Wind Begun to Knead the Grass" might be considered a good poem. To start, in five of the six of her poems I read, there was an excessive use of the dash, which I understood to be used for emphasis or explanatory comment. I didn't see that the dashes added anything other than an annoyance.

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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #3 - Apr 18th, 2006 at 4:25am
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I am open to suggestions --- I am "neglecting" this forum a little bit and I apologize -- I am getting everything set up for The "Virtual Cafe" where we will be able to discuss poems and poetry LIVE --- voice and all! S please be patient and watch for a full "grand opening" message in the Announcements Forum within a few days.

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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2006 at 11:40pm
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Sounds good! I have quite a large repertoire of poems I know well enough to discuss, though must admit to not being extremely well versed (sorry for the pun) in most of the ones you mention--except Prufrock, of course.
  
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Re: Possible Poems for Discussion
Reply #1 - Apr 17th, 2006 at 8:36pm
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Would it be possible to look at some more out of the way works?  I love the classics but have trouble finding much new to say about them Smiley  However there are some modern poets and those from outside the US/UK that deserve further investigation?  Just a suggestion.
  
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