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Re: Lions Playing on the Beach
Reply #7 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:24am
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Sorry - about the poem itself ... 

For three long days we played our fateful game
with hunter and the hunted trading roles.
Our aim, the price of victory we’d claim
to satisfy the nature of our souls.

Nice rhyming there.

Yet victory has no real champion
when pride is motivation for success
and honor in the moment is forgone,
forsaking all traditions of noblesse.

Is there one too many syllables in that last line? It seems that way, when I read it aloud.


Courageous beast, were that your heart be mine,
I envy your magnificence in death.
Your mighty strength showed no sign of decline,
‘twas providence that brought your final breath.

That's the beauty of being an animal - they analyze nothing - they feel what they feel, without thinking about it. 

'Twas a good thought though.


I dreamt of lions playing on the beach
but innocence can not transcend death’s reach.

The last two lines, the crowning glory of this poem, Terence.

(This was based on the themes of Ernest Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea".)

 
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 11:20am
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I'm not sure if I remember - the scene with the lion being shot (injured only) - did it come from The Old Man and the Sea or from one of Hemmingway's short stories?

I seem to remember there being a short story involving Hemingway as protag, a man and woman - one of the men took a shot at the lion and just injured it.

Somebody had to go into the bushes, find the injured cat and put it out of its misery - I think it was the brave wonderful (sexist) Hemingway character.

(Sounds I don't like him, eh? Heh! Heh!)
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 8:18pm
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Terence,

I just re-read "Old Man and Sea" again after perhaps 40 years. I had forgotten what a wonderful story of courage and determination that was. 

Thanks for making me do that!!!

I see now where you got the inspiration for the poem, but in Hemmingway's story it was football team who were the lions on the beach.

I shall ponder on this for a while and perhaps come up with some suggestions now that I know where you are headed.

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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2012 at 1:03am
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Thank you for those thoughts, Wally.

Sorry, but there is no overall metaphor as such. The poem is about the natural instincts of man and animals, with both being hunters. The difference between them being that man can respect nature for what it is and be awed by its beauty even in a death struggle. Something on those lines anyway.

In L13/14, the beach/reach could easily be sand/hand, which is more plausible, e.g. Kalahari, which you probably know well I just realised. In L1 I was tempted to say 'fought our fateful game' but I thought that may overdo the alliteration. Perhaps that change would get the reader away from the game idea. Your concern though was the 'Playing' in the title. The title is a metaphor for innocence, which has little part in the animal world as far as the food chain is concerned, hence L14. Perhaps dopping 'Playing' from the title would help. Then 'playing' in L13 would relate to the life-or-death 'game' in L1.

The fact that you've shown uncertainty about the meaning says that I need to change something. I would be interested in any suggestions.

Thanks, Terence
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Reply #3 - Feb 15th, 2012 at 10:13am
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Hello Terence
A nice sonnet with a good classic flavour and technically well composed.
I do have some problems with following the story and the meaning of the content offered. 

S1 is really great and sets up the scene and activity. This could be the live situation of a hunter and predator seriously stalking one another but the title suggests it is a only game. That lead me to suppose that there is a metaphore involved and the “Lions “ were young boys playing a hunting game.

S2 elabourates on the ethics involved but actually adds nothing of value to the image in place since it is already adequately declared in S1
“Our aim, the price of victory we’d claim
to satisfy the nature of our souls.”

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Yet victory has no real champion
when pride is motivation for success
and honor in the moment is forgone,
forsaking all traditions of noblesse.


However, I’m more inclined now to the game scenario because pride is involved and “Yet victory has no real champion.” BTW I have never heard of real lions inhabiting beaches.

S3 is an ode to the lion, for who’s character the narrator has great respect and admiration. I don’t follow the second couplet as the implication is that the lion actually died so this contradicts S2

The closing couplet repeats the title but L14 while implying feelings of guilt, sheds no further light so I’m left puzzled to what the real message of the poem is.

I hope these comments are useful

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Reply #2 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 5:23am
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Thanks, David, the words are similar with one being a noun and the other an adjective but I wanted to link the two to the lion. I think, though, that "Courageous" could fit better as the adjective.

  
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Reply #1 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:33am
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Terence,
I enjoyed this very much.  My only suggestion would be to use another word for noble, since you have the word noblesse in the previous line, and I gather they are similar in meaning.  Other than that, I say "Bravo!" on a splendid poem.
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Feb 12th, 2012 at 2:53am
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Lions Playing on the Beach

For three long days we played our fateful game
with hunter and the hunted trading roles.
Our aim, the price of victory we’d claim
to satisfy the nature of our souls.

Yet victory has no real champion
when pride is motivation for success
and honor in the moment is forgone,
forsaking all traditions of noblesse.

Courageous beast, were that your heart be mine,
I envy your magnificence in death.
Your mighty strength showed no sign of decline,
‘twas providence that brought your final breath.

I dreamt of lions playing on the beach
but innocence can not transcend death’s reach.



(This was based on the themes of Ernest Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea".)

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