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Reply #9 - Sep 16th, 2025 at 4:06pm
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Bumping this up to be current to see if anyone remembers this poem?
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2009 at 6:55pm
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I really like the effect of the overall poem but feel a bit of wandering as to where it is going and what you desire to impart at the close...I hope this helps in what I LACK in expressing and is of some value...


Fallen Leaf

Voiceless, they come 

autumn’s messengers
their hues
foretell
impending barrenness—

statues of verdant flesh
witness the passage 
supple, to barren 
wind-swept leaves
that toss across streets, and meadows
as miniature gales forecast a storm
 
banners scrape shuttered windows
unfolded as a hand that waves 
to a crowd of strangers 
the leaf never enjoys leaving alone
when worry points up
to cloud filled  skies

wary of the newly present chill
a leaf shivers its detachment
just before it falls 
silent as rain, in part
to enrich the earth
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Reply #7 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 4:42am
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Then maybe, its echoes waving from the hands of strangers. Tri-colored seems to much a riddle to me for some reason.  Undecided
  
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Re: Fallen Leaf
Reply #6 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 4:01am
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It passes by, honor’s banner draping,
as tri-colored echoes wave adieu<----kind of cliche (waving adieu) I also don't think it gains anything from having tri-colored echoes. I think you could drop the line and just have the banner draping and then waving from the hands of strangers/i]


Cyn,

Thanks for the insight here. I like what you've had to say, but must clarify the image portrayed in the above lines. You can'y remove the tri-colored line because the banner cannot wave from the hands of strangers. The banner is draping the passing coffin, and the tri-coloered echoes are the small hand-held flags in the hands of the voiceless crowd. (echoes always being less than its predecessor). 

Your other thoughts, however, are noteworthy and appreciated.

Doug
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 1st, 2009 at 3:41am
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Hi Doug
Nice to see you and a pleasure to comment on your poem.

Fallen Leaf

They came to watch, this voiceless <----I would bring *crowd* up here
crowd, as autumn’s hues foretold
a looming barrenness. Flesh-statues <----like this concept but may like "Satues of flesh" as more readable

standing witness to the passage <----- why standing and not stand or stood (tense change from S1 - maybe change the verbs in S1 to *come* and *foretell*)
of a still green, but now fallen leaf, <---- I think a comma is needed after fallen
wind-swept by the darker gales 
of a distant storm down this solemn street.

It passes by, honor’s banner draping,
as tri-colored echoes wave adieu<----kind of cliche (waving adieu) I also don't think it gains anything from having tri-colored echoes. I think you could drop the line and just have the banner draping and then waving from the hands of strangers/i]
from the hands of strangers who never 
saw the leaf upon its tree; never [i]<---like this ending on never again


enjoyed its dancing on gentler breezes; never <----dance
laughed beneath its frolicking joy
when whimsy pointed to cloudless skies,
unwary of the present commingling <----commingling sounds kind of clinical in this place
of the tears of heaven and earth. 

so maybe something like this


They come to watch, this voiceless crowd,
as autumn’s hues foretell
a looming barrenness. Statues

of flesh stand witness to the passage 
of a still green, but now fallen leaf, 
wind-swept by the darker gales 
of a distant storm down this solemn street.

It passes by, honor’s banner draping,
and waving farewell from hands 
of strangers who never 
saw the leaf upon its tree; never 
enjoyed its dance on gentler breezes; never

laughed beneath its frolicking joy
when whimsy pointed to cloudless skies,
unwary of the present mingling 
of the tears of heaven and earth.
 

Hope this was of some help
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2009 at 11:35pm
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nas wrote on Oct 30th, 2009 at 8:41pm:
Ok, I'll focus on the second one, which I agree flows better.

In some ways I really like the metaphor of the dead soldier as a fallen leaf from the tree, though I do struggle picturing it covered in "honor's banner".

A few thoughts, use or dismiss as you wish

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They came to watch, this voiceless
crowd, as autumn’s hues foretold
a looming barrenness. Flesh-statues

standing witness to the passage
of a still green, but now fallen leaf,
wind-swept by the darker gales
of a distant storm down this solemn street.  <<--you could say along

It passes by, honor’s banner draping, <<--honor's banner draping seems awkward.  I thought about draped but I'm not sure that is any better
as tri-colored echoes wave adieu
from the hands of strangers who never  <<--I think I read the echoes as the hands, maybe just "strangers who never saw..."
saw the leaf upon its tree; never
enjoyed its dancing on gentler breezes; never  <<--"its dance"  perhaps

laughed beneath its frolicking joy
when whimsy pointed to cloudless skies,
unwary of the present commingling
of the tears of heaven and earth.



nas,

Thanks for the crit. As for "down" vs. "along", I think that "down" plays to the mood of the piece a little better. 

Regarding the "banner draping" and the "tri-colord echoes" I had hoped to adequately describe the American flag in both instances. The latter "waving adieu/ from the hands of strangers..."

I think I do like the "dance" rather than "dancing", and will ponder it more before changing it. Perhaps someone else can weigh in on it as well.

Thanks for resurrecting this one,

Doug
  
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Re: Fallen Leaf
Reply #3 - Oct 30th, 2009 at 8:41pm
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Ok, I'll focus on the second one, which I agree flows better.

In some ways I really like the metaphor of the dead soldier as a fallen leaf from the tree, though I do struggle picturing it covered in "honor's banner".

A few thoughts, use or dismiss as you wish

Quote:
They came to watch, this voiceless
crowd, as autumn’s hues foretold
a looming barrenness. Flesh-statues

standing witness to the passage
of a still green, but now fallen leaf,
wind-swept by the darker gales
of a distant storm down this solemn street.  <<--you could say along

It passes by, honor’s banner draping, <<--honor's banner draping seems awkward.  I thought about draped but I'm not sure that is any better
as tri-colored echoes wave adieu
from the hands of strangers who never  <<--I think I read the echoes as the hands, maybe just "strangers who never saw..."
saw the leaf upon its tree; never
enjoyed its dancing on gentler breezes; never  <<--"its dance"  perhaps

laughed beneath its frolicking joy
when whimsy pointed to cloudless skies,
unwary of the present commingling
of the tears of heaven and earth.
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 30th, 2009 at 1:05pm
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nas wrote on Oct 30th, 2009 at 6:33am:
Is version 1 the original and 2 your revision.  I'm unsure which to comment on


nas,

Thank you for noticing this piece. I was begining to think it was DOA. 

You may comment on either/both. The first one is the original version. In the second edition I did some tweaking, especially of the opening, but also in other places, for perceived flow issues. I just wanted readers to see my thought progressions with this effort.

Doug

  
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Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2009 at 6:33am
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Is version 1 the original and 2 your revision.  I'm unsure which to comment on
  
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Oct 16th, 2009 at 2:56pm
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There are two versions of this effort for your consideration. I made some changes to the original, but thought both versions should be posted for your critique.

Version #1

Fallen Leaf

They came to watch— 
as autumn’s hues foretold
their impending barrenness—

a voiceless crowd, flesh-statues
bearing witness to the passage 
of a still green, but now fallen leaf, 
wind-swept down this solemn street
by darker gales of a distant storm.
 
It passes by, honor’s banner draping,
as tri-colored echoes wave adieu
from the hands of strangers who never
 
saw the leaf upon its tree; never 
enjoyed its dancing on gentler breezes; never 
laughed beneath its frolicking joy

when whimsy pointed to cloudless skies,
unwary of  the present commingling 
of the tears of heaven and earth. 

© D. Allen Jenkins




Version #2

Fallen Leaf

They came to watch, this voiceless 
crowd, as autumn’s hues foretold
a looming barrenness. Flesh-statues

standing witness to the passage 
of a still green, but now fallen leaf, 
wind-swept by the darker gales 
of a distant storm down this solemn street.
 
It passes by, honor’s banner draping,
as tri-colored echoes wave adieu
from the hands of strangers who never 
saw the leaf upon its tree; never 
enjoyed its dancing on gentler breezes; never
 
laughed beneath its frolicking joy
when whimsy pointed to cloudless skies,
unwary of the present commingling 
of the tears of heaven and earth. 

© D. Allen Jenkins  

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