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Reply #10 - Apr 20th, 2010 at 10:04am
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I still feel this has potential, and I will stick as close to the actual as possible, (the way you've written it) but with some adds and deletes for  you to consider...I have seen sparks drip from sparklers and firecrackers and burning logs so:
telling a story that moves ...

Sparks drip from your eyes:
as stars in purest form,
fall from blue-black sky
to grey-green sea.
They haunt my dreams.
In my nights, I see it all:
how they fall
from the heavens
as your eyes from my face
you no longer illuminate, my life,
our destiny as our light, fades.
paradise begged, given and gone
of and out of love, 
I dream of oracles 
without crystal balls,
or potions or cards to divine meaning
or my fate now so clearly seen
as you turn away, your eyes.  



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Reply #9 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:42pm
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I found the version put up by peach to be the best one, though it appears to be an original poem rather than a revision of the original one. As regards the revised version put up by sarratackz, I am not clear what exactly is sought to be conveyed. Each commentator has applied his or her own interpretation to the poem, no one being quite sure what the original is meant to be. "They claimed it fate for you love to me". But I thought that the rules of grammar and English usage applied to poems also. This is followed by "For you to leave." What is this supposed to mean? Will the love be followed by a parting of ways? But peach seems to be writing about everlasting love.
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Reply #8 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 9:59pm
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2010 at 8:00am
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Sarah,

How about...

In Your Eyes


Sparks from your eyes: those stars 
in purest form,
        burning blue and green as the seas.
They haunt my dreams.
In my own night I see it all:
how they fall
from the heavens of your face
and illuminate mine
spelling out destinies in old light.
I found this paradise and begged it for love. 
I dreamt oracles that divined meaning 
in the bombardment 
of your eyes and moaned
prophecies of a soul mate. 
They claimed it fate for you to love me.
For you to leave. I thought us destined, 
in your eyes. 



Sparks from ones eyes don't need a verb, especially not dripped. Sparks fly, produce trajectories, etc.
There's also no need for stars a second time, when the first time those sparks are named as stars more aptly, the repetition works against the 'heaven of your face' image. If that line is now too thin, carefully, add something else that builds on the already developing extended metaphor.

Incidentally, did I mention that I enjoy how fearlessly you are in extending metaphors. I love that about your writing.

Okay, I was going to delete 'old' in this example, until I got to soul mate and thought 'old soul' was the intention there. If so, that needs a little more help/connection, maybe?

Sparks, stars, illuminate, light, bombardment does not need bright. Bombardment is a pretty harsh word to begin with. 

It's late, I don't think I need to explain why the ending the way it is. It's just an idea, everything that came after those lines, seemed to be tying up loose ends. I prefer loose ends, the looser the better.

Love this poem. I haven't look at other versions or other crits. Just blazing through, so to speak. A pleasure to read.


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Reply #6 - Feb 4th, 2010 at 9:17pm
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okay so I haven't been in this forum in a while and I completely forgot about this poem. I can't believe I used twinkle! Here's a revision, finally. And a note on sparks dripping: I really like that and I think the imagery is a little difficult but works for the feel of the poem.





Sparks dripped from your eyes:
those stars in purest form,
         burning blue and green as the seas.
They haunt my dreams.
In my own night I see it all:
your stars and how they fall
from the heavens of your face
and illuminate mine
spelling out destinies in old light.
I found this paradise and begged it for love. 
I dreamed oracles that divined meaning
in the bright bombardment 
of your eyes and moaned
prophecies of a soul mate. 
They claimed it fate for you love to me.
For you to leave. I thought us destined, 
written in your eyes. And I loved you 
all the same, and I love you no less 
for our predetermined games.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 4th, 2010 at 6:03pm
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Hello sara,

I went back to the first version. The second was too overwhelmed by influence. The line “burning blue and green as the seas.” & “And in my own night I see it all:” were stronger than their replacements.

I found the most interesting the line 'the drip of sparks'. 
As a paradox—if that's what you meant, is the strongest part of the poem (even though I would have them fall upwards (or another way) to extend the paradox, as well as to link it with the burning blue…). Perhaps clarification for the reader helps, but far too often the poet remains subjected to the need to make simpler, instead of requiring the lazy reader to struggle with the words and their greater meanings. 

The interest stopped for me then somewhat (too much twinkle and heavens for my dark side).
Though I did like old light, and the overall sentiment of the piece.

In revision, especially when taking advice or suggestions I would recommend going deeper with the meaning instead of making clearer so as to be understood more easily. 

Keep at it.

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Sparks dripped down from your eyes:
stars in purest form,
        burning blue and green as the seas.
They twinkle in my dreams. ehh, twinkle... Smiley

And in my own night I see it all:
    your stars and how they fall from heavens
and light up mine.
Spelling out destinies in old light.
We designed this sky, set it up for love.
We were destined, written in the stars.

And I loved you all the same,
    and I love you no less 
for our predetermined games.
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Reply #4 - Feb 2nd, 2010 at 4:44am
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Sparks, as stars in purest form,
burn blue white as diamonds, 
reflected on a moonlit sea 
As the twinkle of bright eyes, 
in my dreams.
none so bright with life 
as yours
they illuminate the darkest night 
enable me to see it all:
the heavens, celestial 
send their fire light to mine.
sealing our destinies 
in a glow as old as time.
designed to fit
a matched set.
of fated stars.

I shall love you
always 
always as forever
certain,
I shall never love 
you less
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Re: In Your Eyes
Reply #3 - Aug 12th, 2009 at 3:44am
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sarattackz wrote on Aug 12th, 2009 at 12:12am:
Thank you so much for your constructive criticism!! I felt completely encouraged and I think it's so great that you can be kind and point me in my the right direction for my poem; I was so lost.

Here's the revision!

Sparks dripped down from your eyes:To expand on dgod's thought, sparks do not drip...water drips, tears drip...sparks fly, dart, dance, shimmer, shoot, but never drip.
                 pure light.
Color changing with every twinkle. pure light is colorless, white.
I see that light [it/them] in my dreams.

And with closed eyes [Eyes closed,] it all becomes clear;
       your stars and how they shoot across the sky.You've  reverted back to stars from pure light in the first stanza. Which is it?
It seems this sky is bright for us
for we were written [is...in] those stars. Don't reuse sky and star

And I loved you all the same,
      and I love you no less redundant. To love the same is by definition no more or less.
realizing we were destined to be.

You have something to work with here, sar. Keep at it!  Cool

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Reply #2 - Aug 12th, 2009 at 12:12am
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Thank you so much for your constructive criticism!! I felt completely encouraged and I think it's so great that you can be kind and point me in my the right direction for my poem; I was so lost.

Here's the revision!

Sparks dripped down from your eyes:
                 pure light.
Color changing with every twinkle.
I see that light in my dreams.

And with closed eyes it all becomes clear;
       your stars and how they shoot across the sky.
It seems this sky is bright for us
for we were written is those stars.

And I loved you all the same,
      and I love you no less
realizing we were destined to be.
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Re: In Your Eyes
Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2009 at 4:23am
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sarattackz wrote on Aug 10th, 2009 at 2:47am:
Sparks dripped down from your eyes:
stars in purest form,
         burning blue and green as the seas.
They twinkle in my dreams.

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-I find this a bit of a jumble: mixed metaphors, vague abstractions, cliche. I can't imagine finding the sight of sparks dripping from someone's eyes to be attractive. Stars in their purest form? Light?

And in my own night I see it all:
     your stars and how they fall from heavens
 and light up mine.
Spelling out destinies in old light.
We designed this sky, set it up for love.
We were destined, written in the stars.

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-who the heck is this: a god or goddess (my own night)? Where else would the stars fall from, besides the heavens? Old light would suggest the past, not the future..We designed the sky and this is the best description we have for it?


And I loved you all the same,
     and I love you no less 
for our predetermined games.

Quote:
-pre-determined games? Stars and sparks and pre-determination? Before you go to the stars, go back to your lovers eyes and take a good look.


  
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In Your Eyes
Aug 10th, 2009 at 2:47am
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here's my revision! sorry, I forgot to put it up here.

Sparks dripped from your eyes:
those stars in purest form,
         burning blue and green as the seas.
They haunt my dreams.
In my own night I see it all:
your stars and how they fall
from the heavens of your face
and illuminate mine
spelling out destinies in old light.
I found this paradise and begged it for love. 
I dreamed oracles that divined meaning
in the bright bombardment 
of your eyes and moaned
prophecies of a soul mate. 
They claimed it fate for you love to me.
For you to leave. I thought us destined, 
written in your eyes. And I loved you 
all the same, and I love you no less 
for our predetermined games. 




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Sparks dripped down from your eyes:
stars in purest form,
         burning blue and green as the seas.
They twinkle in my dreams.

And in my own night I see it all:
     your stars and how they fall from heavens
 and light up mine.
Spelling out destinies in old light.
We designed this sky, set it up for love.
We were destined, written in the stars.

And I loved you all the same,
     and I love you no less 
for our predetermined games.
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