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Reply #14 - Nov 10th, 2019 at 6:58pm
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Bumping this up in case someone wants to take a crack at it??
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 17th, 2005 at 7:06am
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with Dali allusions and all ... I did not communicate, I guess.

SURREAL (AS IN "SURREALISM")???

I guess Sir Real got just a little bit too surreal after eating some bad cereal.

PS -- Vicki didn't like this one, btw.

Norm
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Reply #12 - Nov 17th, 2005 at 3:22am
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Norm,

I'm afraid I'll have to join Eric in the boat of "out of my genre". I was with you until the 'run-on', but trying to make heads or tails out of it has me spinning still. I loved the... unable to receive absolution from the holy water from the stream of consciousness 
that runs behind the backyard of my mind.
That is brilliant. My only thought would concern the name Sir Real; I am assuming you are going for "cereal" and wonder if the latinized accenting (re AL... I can't do it on my keyboard) would enhance that allusion. I may be wrong about that, but it won't be the first time.

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Reply #11 - Nov 9th, 2005 at 1:41am
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Norm,

I know that you mentioned this is firebox when you posted the poem.  I wanted to take my time and think and read it a few times before commenting.

I agree with the others that you have created a very clever piece.

In fact the more I read it, the more I see, and that draws me back to read it again.  What more could you want from a work?  Making them want more, I love it.

  
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Reply #10 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 10:26pm
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Joseph,

Thanks for posting --- I am not at liberty yet to go into the "publishing" thing. I promise to keep y'all informed, though. ~smile~

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Reply #9 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 9:41pm
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It is a clever poem, it has some meat to it with the line about Shakespere writing 32 episodes of Star Trek, at least in the 2nd Gen Q would not be a mean spirited shallow fool, and Data would not need an evil twin to build complexity.  I could more easily imagine Shakespere and Dr. Who.  I do wonder what prompted you to choose this for publication?  Joe
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 3:23am
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Eric,

Just having your response on a poem of mine often is all the input I need LOL.

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Reply #7 - Nov 5th, 2005 at 11:41pm
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Eric,

Points well taken and I surely understand. You know that I write every which way so I know how this stuff must "get to you".  The "allude" was truly deliberate since the poem literary is an "allusion" joy ride (well, "joy" for me, anyway).

Yeah --- it's cutesy -- right down to the line spacing with "eating Dolly Madison" (long pause, ~smile~)
...at least I didn't go for the "Dali" spelling there since the clock melting comes right after it... that would have been even too much for me --- yet that IS why I picked that ice cream brand so I'd get the Dali reference.

Punny to the point of "enough already" ... but it's what I do sometimes.  

If you look in Cicadian Addiction, I'm playing another kind of game with Quintains and poets ... go figure.

Thanks for at least dropping in on it.

Norm


Don't get me wrong...I enjoyed it.

I'm just not qualified to critique it.

(You may feel the same about my current entry here...who knows?)
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Reply #6 - Nov 5th, 2005 at 5:24am
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Thank you, Richie --- glad you enjoyed it.

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Reply #5 - Nov 5th, 2005 at 5:23am
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Eric,

Points well taken and I surely understand. You know that I write every which way so I know how this stuff must "get to you".  The "allude" was truly deliberate since the poem literary is an "allusion" joy ride (well, "joy" for me, anyway).

Yeah --- it's cutesy -- right down to the line spacing with "eating Dolly Madison" (long pause, ~smile~)
...at least I didn't go for the "Dali" spelling there since the clock melting comes right after it... that would have been even too much for me --- yet that IS why I picked that ice cream brand so I'd get the Dali reference.

Punny to the point of "enough already" ... but it's what I do sometimes.   

If you look in Cicadian Addiction, I'm playing another kind of game with Quintains and poets ... go figure.

Thanks for at least dropping in on it.

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Re: Sir Real
Reply #4 - Nov 5th, 2005 at 1:49am
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Hard to tell, with a work of this nature, but 

"Everyone retired, 
but sleep alluded me."

Sure you didn't mean 'eluded'?

I'm stopping.  Truth is, this is the kind of work that eludes me...I see the clever nuances, the references of crossmatched artists at crossed purposes, and I get it...but I don't feel it.  

What's harder...I can't tell (as with allude/elude) what's intentional and what is error; I took the run on (as opposed to 'run-on') sentence to be intentional, as a run on a hot stock.

Worst of all, I recognize it...as part of the modernist trend whose popularity has nearly taken my own style out of the market for print.

Sorry, Norm, I'm the wrong critic for this sort of work.  By my own rules of crit (as shown in Critical Scripture) I'm just not qualified.

I was drawn in by the title, but I'm thrown by the work like a bronc whose moves I just can't time...and I've lost my seat.
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Reply #3 - Nov 4th, 2005 at 9:05pm
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everyone has a "Rosebud". norm [i'll post mine later]

I liked it very clever its a performace piece no dought about it.

nothing more from me
good work

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Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2005 at 1:14pm
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Dean ---

I appreciate your input. You are correct about the run-on >>> that would be proper. Good catch.

The comma after poet is also a good point but I am not sure about the one after water. I think the double "from's" tends to make us think there is a pause there, but there really isn't. That one's a toss-up (note hyphen).

Yes -- this is all about the puns and gimmicks from the title right down to the stream. But there is a market out there for this and my people seem to know their stuff.  I'll keep you informed --- in about 3-months LOL.

Thanks so much for your advice,

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Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2005 at 5:00am
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fascinating piece....and extremely clever,  though I am unsure of its place in literature.  Smiley   Something so marked by punning and double-entendre is bound to appeal to the gimmick lover first of all.   I have some questions about the last stanza:

making anti-semantic remarks about the sin tax 
another imposed on my own free verse a run on sentence   
was imposed on this poet 
unable to receive absolution from the holy water 
from the stream of consciousness 
that runs behind the backyard of my mind. 
 
Wouldn't it be run-on,  or is this another double  (can't think of the word for the device) implication of something else like a "run on the bank?"  I would use commas after "poet"  and again after "water."   I can see that a lot of thought and planning went into this piece.   Good luck with it!
  
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Nov 4th, 2005 at 3:17am
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Note: Well, this one is going out to 11 publications in two weeks so maybe some of you will offer up whatever you can. My writing service loves it but I want more input.  Thanks --- this is FIREBOX.

Sir Real

I am Sir Real and I was invited 
to a sleep-over organic cocktail party
complete with poem sandwiches, multi-grain bred and raised,
followed by just desserts and misplaced modifiers.

Together everyone ate Dolly Madison

ice cream 
and clocks were  
melting on
grand pianos;

A discussion pursued on literary subjunctives:

what if
... Flaubert had conjured up Holden Caufield.
... Shakespeare had written 32 Star Trek episodes.
... J E P and D had also written the Story of O.
... or, there never really was a sled named "Rosebud".

Everyone retired,
but sleep alluded me.
An iron-clad griffin had perched itself
above my chamber door
making anti-semantic remarks about the sin tax
another imposed on my own free verse a run on sentence 
was imposed on this poet
unable to receive absolution from the holy water
from the stream of consciousness
that runs behind the backyard of my mind.

© Norman S. Pollack  4/2003


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