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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am
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Dericlee (Eric),
T first I thought this was a poem (having not seen "Fight Club" obviously.)  You crafted this in a way that fooled me and probably others who have not yet seen the movie.  Well done!
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Eric, isn't hot when you abstract a poem from someone else's work?  'I wish I could have written that"  But oddly the scriptwriter didn't make a poem of it, you did, so in fact you did write that.  But I know what you mean and I know you would never take credit for it, and that is cool too, but your abstract is rally fine.  Joe Finkleman
  
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Eric,

The book is spot on, too. Only you'll find the ending different, and a little more depth to characters like Marla (? Tyler's "girlfriend") and some of the catchy lines are left out, because the writer Chuck Palahniuk assisted in the screenplay as well. 
Like the brief scene where both Tyler and Ed Norton's character are on the bus and Norton looks at a Calvin Klein model in an ad and asks, is that what men are supposed to look like? And Tyler (played by Brad Pitt) says, no! That's just ego masturbation. Ah, the irony of someone looking like a Brad Pitt delivering that statement brought me to tears in laughter.

The movie aside, use of quotes to fuel a poem is not without merit, as long as the poem itself has a cohesive purpose. This poem would need some tweaking, but I think the writing stands on it's own without having seen the movie. Although, I'd recommend watching it, and if you have a dvd...slow down the very end, before the credits. lolololol.

Good to see you back Eric, I've missed you.
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You have put the words of the film together so well Dericlee.  I've not seen Fight Club and know nothing much about it but the poem has intrigued  me enough to find out more.
  
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Re: An original study in unoriginality.
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dericlee:

Enjoyed your arrangement.....allowed me to experience once again  a portion of the "thrill" (adreneline rush) I always look forward to when watching the movie.  Not just from the "story", but rather from the incredible lines they speak throughout.  Powerful reminder that the clashing heterogeneity of this modern society almost certainly dictates that the Club's last fight will be choreographed atop that Sears Tower, in a not-too-distant future.

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Just_Daniel wrote on Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am:


Fascinating stuff.  I've never seen either of these...





Oh...OH!  The other was that additional quote I offered Ace?

Yeah, it's also from Fight Club.
  
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Just_Daniel wrote on Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am:
Fascinating stuff.  I've never seen either of these.

My questions are...

1 Where did you get the scripts of either of these?



I'm having trouble figuring out what you mean "either of these".  This is all from the one movie: "Fight Club". Where I got the material is, there's a website called the Internet Movie Database ( http://www.imdb.com ) where you can look up any movie and most TV series by title, or look up people by name and get their current list of credits.  On the page for the movie, there's a link to a "quotes" page ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/quotes )...but you're at the mercy of the tastes and accuracy of fans posting their own favorite quotes; IMDb only provides the space, not the script.


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2 Did you leave all of the words intact as in the original and merely reformat?



I checked these against my DVD and each of the quotes I used is (to my best observation) exactly as worded in the movie...so yes, my only creative input lay in selecting the quotes and arranging them

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deLighting in seeing your thoughts, as always, Daniel  8)



Always good to see you, too, Dan'l.  Come by anytime!
  
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Greetings, Eric... Wanna fight?
Reply #3 - Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am
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Fascinating stuff.  I've never seen either of these.

My questions are...

1 Where did you get the scripts of either of these?

2 Did you leave all of the words intact as in the original and merely reformat?

deLighting in seeing your thoughts, as always, Daniel  8)

  
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Re: An original study in unoriginality.
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How ya doin', ace?

Yeah...there are very few feelings that ache me worse that "MAN, I wish I'd written that!!"  There were just so many really good lines in that flic, I couldn't leave it alone.  Another one (that I couldn't fit, here, was 

Tyler Durden: In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

It's all just such good stuff!  I guess I was hoping that its own originality would carry over for me.
  
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Dericlee:


   Isn't hell to read writing like this knowing you didn't write it?  Good interesting approach to it howwever.

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An original study in unoriginality.
Jan 1st, 1970 at 12:00am
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(Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. 
I see all this potential, 
and I see squandering. 
God darn it, an entire generation 
pumping gas, 
waiting tables; 
slaves with white collars. 

Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, 
working jobs we hate so we can buy nuts we don't need. 
We're the middle children of history, man. 
No purpose or place. 
We have no Great War. 
No Great Depression. 

Our Great War's a spiritual war... 
our Great Depression is our lives. 

We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.)



The first rule of Fight Club is - you do not talk about Fight Club.

(With a gun barrel between your teeth, you speak only in vowels.) 

The second rule of Fight Club is - you DO NOT talk about Fight Club.

("We're consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty, these things don't concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy's name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra."
"Martha Stewart."
"crappity smack Martha Stewart. Martha's polishing the brass on the Titanic. It's all going down, man." )


Third rule of Fight Club, someone yells Stop!, goes limp, taps out, the fight is over.

(I got in everyone's hostile little face. Yes, these are bruises from fighting. Yes, I'm comfortable with that. I am enlightened)

Fourth rule, only two guys to a fight.

(Fight club wasn't about winning or losing. It wasn't about words. The hysterical shouting was in tongues, like at a Pentecostal Church.)

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Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave Cordon Bleu hobby kit. Shampoo-conditioner combos, sample-packaged mouthwash, tiny bars of soap. The people I meet on each flight? They're single-serving friends.

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Fifth rule, one fight at a time, fellas.

(Hitting bottom isn't a weekend retreat. It's not a goddarn seminar. Stop trying to control everything and just let go! LET GO!) 

Sixth rule, no shirt, no shoes.

(WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! Ok, you are now firing a gun at your 'imaginary friend' near 400 GALLONS OF NITROGLYCERINE!)

Seventh rule, fights will go on as long as they have to.

(After fighting, everything else in your life got the volume turned down.) 

And the eighth and final rule, if this is your first night at Fight Club ...

(Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.)


... you have to fight.








I'm not tagging ths as copyright.  The words intrigued me enough to arrange them in a semi-poetic structure, but all of these lines are taken directly from the script of "Fight Club", so (as the title indicates) this is not an original work--just a study in the use of someone else's work in a different application.
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