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Re: Up North - revised
Reply #14 - Sep 25th, 2006 at 7:05pm
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Cyn,

   My preference is for the layout of the top version but the spider metaphor (S2 in the middle version) is too meaningful to be left out.

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Reply #13 - Sep 22nd, 2006 at 7:53pm
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I appreciate your comments all
The O Canada is in italics denoting it is spoken, in this case sung as it is the whitethroat's call 

then not in italics is  *my* oh Canada in response 

tanned to show it is summer (a summer island cabin) 
and first touching to show the N is now alone (maybe I should say once instead)

Great suggestions from everyone, many of which I will use 

I think perhaps a lot of the intent of this poem has been lost by editing out the spider reference in the first draft. The spider feels a bit contrived in a way and stuck in, but it wasn't. The spider image actually birthed the poem and therefore the reference to the spider silk. Somehow I think the metaphor may now be too lost in the most recent version - that broken things, like relationships and spider webs, can be repaired. 

I know I can make this work if I can fix the spider references, but it is just not there yet I guess. Back to the drawing board.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 21st, 2006 at 5:34pm
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yeah, I think I am with you on this one nas
  
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Re: Up North - revised
Reply #11 - Sep 21st, 2006 at 8:42am
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Hi Cyn

Personally, I like the first one best.  As a poem it is the better, sleeker version.  The images of the weather seem to flow much smoother without the interruption of the two spider verses, which I feel are being used as a metaphor, to push across a message about the MC.  I prefer the more subtle approach but it depends on how important it is to make your point clear.

A few suggestions on the first version.  As always use what you like reject the rest.


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Up north  
where my tanned skin first lay touching yours,  
a whitethroat calls  
until the last jig-saw pieces of light  
fall from between the branches  
and all that remains is shadow cast by the moon  
reflecting off the bay.  
 
I wake from my dozing to the rolling  
of thunder, rumbling  
off this granite island’s floor,  
and to the rain borne on the wind  
through the open window  
above my bed.  
 
It passes directly overhead,  
quieting the early birds, bidding beetles  
and bugs of every sort to seek shelter,  
along with the hint of first-light,  
between the battered boards  
of my cabin's walls.  <<you could also say cabin walls
 
The rain moves off  
along the archipelago  
to erase the eastern shore,  
blots out the gradient glow  <<I think you need to say blotting rather than blots
of the orange orb  
making its morning there.  
 
A promise hangs in the air  
somewhere, as tenuous and tenacious  
as spider's silk, repaired by dawn,  <<I very much like this image.
the finishing touches tended to  <<perhaps "its finishing touches"
as day begins to break.  <<I wonder if begins is necessary?
And the whitethroat takes up his call:  
 
O my Canada Canada Canada Canada 
Oh my Canada.
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Reply #10 - Sep 21st, 2006 at 1:51am
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This piece has been revised a few times now. Opinions please
  
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Re: Up North - revised
Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2006 at 1:37am
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Hey Cyn,

i am still sitting on this piece. i haven't forgotten. Bear with me a little longer. i am piecing some thoughts together.

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Reply #8 - Jul 28th, 2006 at 4:43am
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Ho ho

But you are very convincing. Maybe someday. I am still too new at this.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 28th, 2006 at 2:41am
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Performance anxiety? Don't they have pills for that?  I get emails all of the time that say they can relieve my PA.  Hohoho.  I can understand the fear, but I must say the work deserves people hearing them.  Don't do it for you do it for them.  Joe
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 27th, 2006 at 2:14pm
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Wow Joe
What a compliment.
I have performance anxiety though. Somehow I don't see me giving a reading. But it is an intriguing thought. One I had never entertained before.  Smiley Thanks
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 9:31pm
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Cyn, I usually think Terence is spot on, but in this case I totally disagree.  I found the breaks to be consistent with the flow and thought process.  Also, "blots" is exactly right, it eliminates the conjunction and making it more spare, plus it has the definitive time sense that is consistent in the poem. As is usual with your work very mature and quite good.  If you ever come to Sacramento and if you would want this I believe I could get you a reading here.  A big poetry venue here and your work would be received well.  Joe
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 26th, 2006 at 5:24pm
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Cyn,

I do find this flow much better and it is not too long imo, the more of this writing the better really. A bit of research tells me that the song of the whitethroat sparrow is known to sound like ‘O Canada’ so I get that aspect. I also see you are making good use of consonance, etc., rather than rhyme.

One thing I am unsure about is whether there is an underlying, metaphorical, reference to an actual lover or if it is personification of the land, if you see what I mean. Could be neither, but if I am on the right track perhaps that aspect could be emphasized more. Either way I do like the slightly melancholy feel of pining that comes across.

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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 9:39pm
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Hi Cyn,

i'm trying to dissect this too. i'll be back later.
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Re: Up North
Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 9:34pm
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Fair enough Terrence. This is here for help.
The stanza breaks can be modified. I will give it a try and see if it helps this one for you.

Maybe it is just too long? And I am unsure if the mood I am trying to convey even comes through. 

Although I am glad the imagery works some.
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Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2006 at 7:37pm
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Cyn,

    I feel really bad for saying this but I found the line breaks annoying. It was ok in the first few stanzas but, for me, I started losing pace and train of thought as the poem progressed. You may have good reason and it may be just a difference in style or perception, I just didn’t care for the interruptions. My only suggestion would be that you made the lines/thoughts more complete, still with enjambment as you wish.

   My one other observation is that in these lines
‘The rain moves off   
along the archipelago   
to erase the eastern shore,   
   
blots out the gradient glow   
of the orange orb   
making its morning appearance
there.’

‘blots’ seems to be the wrong context. My preference would be for ‘and blots’ or ‘blotting’.

You have great imagery but I feel some of it is lost in the format. As always, just my viewpoint.

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Up North - revised
Jul 25th, 2006 at 12:01am
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Here are two new versions of this poem, please let me know which of the 3 work better for you. I am inclined to go with the shortest piece but wonder if it becomes too subtle. Please read from the top down

Up North

Up north 
where my tanned skin first lay touching yours, 
a whitethroat calls 
until the last jig-saw pieces of light 
fall from between the branches 
and all that remains is shadow cast by the moon 
reflecting off the bay. 

I wake from my dozing to the rolling 
of thunder, rumbling 
off this granite island’s floor, 
and to the rain borne on the wind 
through the open window 
above my bed. 

It passes directly overhead, 
quieting the early birds, bidding beetles 
and bugs of every sort to seek shelter, 
along with the hint of first-light, 
between the battered boards 
of my cabin's walls. 

The rain moves off 
along the archipelago 
to erase the eastern shore, 
blots out the gradient glow 
of the orange orb 
making its morning there. 

A promise hangs in the air 
somewhere, as tenuous and tenacious 
as spider's silk, repaired by dawn, 
the finishing touches tended to 
as day begins to break. 
And the whitethroat takes up his call: 

O my Canada Canada Canada Canada
Oh my Canada.

Up North

Up north 
where my tanned skin first lay touching yours, 
a whitethroat calls 
until the last jig-saw pieces of light 
fall from between the branches 
and all that remains is shadow cast by the moon 
reflecting off the bay. 

The spider seems to freefall, 
spinning, legs outstretched as if 
to slow her plunge. Her web 
is perfectly designed, 
methodical, defined, 

yet unsafe from the uninvited 
who fray her fabric, 
so willfully woven, and begin 
her downward drift. 

I wake from my dozing to the rolling 
of thunder, rumbling 
off this granite island’s floor, 
and to the rain borne on the wind 
through the open window 
above our bed. 

It passes directly 
overhead, quieting 
the early birds, bidding beetles 
and bugs of every sort to seek shelter, 
along with the hint of first-light, 
between the battered boards 
of my cabin's walls. 

The rain moves off 
along the archipelago 
to erase the eastern shore, 
blots out the gradient glow 
of the orange orb 
making morning there. 

A promise hangs in the air 
somewhere, as tenuous and tenacious 
as spider's silk, repaired by dawn, 
the finishing touches tended to 
as day begins to break. 
And the whitethroat takes up his call: 

O my Canada Canada Canada Canada
Oh my Canada.


Up North
 
Up north 
where my tanned skin  
first lay touching yours, 
the whitethroat calls 
until the last shards of light 
fall from between the branches, 
and all that remains  
is shadow cast by the moon  
reflecting off the bay. 
I beg for a breeze; I am 
sleepless without you, 
and I want the wind's caress. 
 
But he does not comply, fickle 
as a former friend. In the still 
my will wanders;  
is there a method to this
madness, this spiraling down? 
The spider seems to freefall, spinning, 
legs outstretched as if  
to slow her plunge. Her web 
is perfectly designed, methodical, defined, 
yet unsafe from the uninvited  
who fray this fabric,  
so willfully woven, to begin  
her downward drift. 

I wake  
from my dozing to the rolling 
of thunder, rumbling 
off the granite floor 
of this island and to the rain 
borne on the wind 
through the open window  
above our bed. The end  
of the doldrum? The tempest 
passes directly overhead, quieting 
the early birds, bidding beetles 
and bugs of every sort 
to seek shelter, along with the hint of first-light, 
between the battered boards 
of this cabin's walls. 
 
The rain moves off 
along the archipelago 
to erase the eastern shore, 
and blots out the gradient glow  
of the orange orb making its morning appearance  
there. A promise hangs in the air  
somewhere, as tenuous and tenacious 
as spider's silk, repaired by dawn, 
finishing touches tended to 
as day begins to break. 
And the whitethroat takes up his call: 
 
Oh my Canada Canada Canada Canada
Oh my Canada. 
 
Cyn
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