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dividing iambic heptameer = ballad
Reply #10 - Sep 25th, 2009 at 3:08pm
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... and I'm encouraged by your being encouraged, my friend!

I kind of thought that you might have purposely phrased 'gay' in that spot, but in case it was a typo, I thought I should point it out.

I didn't mention another thing about your iambic heptameter.  If you divide each line into two lines, of four feet and three feet and then arrange them in quatrains (four lines), you'll be writing in ballad form [ as you did in your original opening lines ] -- except without rhyme.

deLighting in your work and praying with you for your brother(s), Daniel  Cool
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Re: Blank Verse ~ Form of the Month September 2009
Reply #9 - Sep 25th, 2009 at 12:28pm
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Dan'l, your constructive comments inspire me, more than you know.
I shall work this over (learned something new AGAIN-- even as an old dawg), and can't stop now! 

Incidentally, where you put GRAY, I had "gay" because he is an old queen. All 3 of us beez of the long tooth, but the saddest part is that the half-guy has two primary cancer  sites and a not encouraging at all prognosis.   

Your expressive support is treasured. Thanks. Will probably post on CA. (maybe). eek.
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Re: Blank Verse ~ Form of the Month September 2009
Reply #8 - Sep 25th, 2009 at 7:56am
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Wow, Diane!

You really ARE processing well your dealing with your half-brother's situation.  I trust that all three of you will find closure as you deal, hopefully together, with this great difficulty.  My prayers are with you.

At first I thought you'd totally missed the point of what 'blank verse' is... but when I read it through I was amazed at the flow of this, although you didn't arrange what you'd done 'correctly' on the page (formatting).  For the most part you have iambic heptameter [ 7 daDUMs ], and you're VERY consistent with it.

I've reformatted it here, making a few 'corrections' AND indicating some places where there are missing feet [da DUMs] in a few lines, which I've indicated with [ / / ] - each slash indicating a missing foot.

This is really an excellent piece, Diane, especially in light of your saying it only took a short while to produce.  I've been VERY impressed with what I've seen from your pen of late, my friend!

diehard wrote on Sep 23rd, 2009 at 5:54pm:
Heavy on my mind

A brother and a half have I 
and both of them are rich
in talent just as in ego. 
Well yes, they’ve money, too.
The half one isn’t half at all
the whole one’s not so whole
and each of them, so full of self,
sport shoulders full of chips:
Oh “he said this” and long ago
the other walked away and each one closed the door
as well as mind and heart. Each thought “You need not contact me,
for I have friends (which you are not) and others who respect
the worth of such as I.” Each one proclaimed the other lacked
civility or sense or what comprises “right”.

It’s sad today how easily the unimportant climbs
to pinnacles, to point of focus, far from matters true.
When rage and anger’s kin block out the routes alternative
of patience, or just “count to ten”, or “what’s behind this?” view.

I’ve written this today because the brother whole implodes 
at provocations minimal, and fury-full, strikes out responding to
my disagreeing with his point of view. It’s not so much his boldface
type or tone that worries me, but that this too short time we have
invective-full will kill what chances that we have, as three, the last of
living sibs, to say goodbye in wiser words, to reach out with a sense
of “okay, then, you had the right to be just who you are, and different, I
my thing did do, and he went his way too. “

So one of us is old and gay and one of us a crone and one of us 
will need to know he’s not the only one who cares that family unites
before that enemy the scyther-guy, the reaper king laughs darkly at us all.

The older that we get we know we’re closer to the edge of what’s out there
for anyone, and fear is not of that. The fear or dread is in the now, the facing 
up to facts: we’re given kin to know ourselves, we’re none of us perfect.
We’ll die. But let us do so, please, with such a sense that we did all we could
to be what we’d be proud of when we fly,
there at that edge
take off 
with full-face smile as wings. 

Carver 09/23/09


Heavy on my mind

A brother and a half have I[,] and both of them are rich
in talent just as in ego. Well yes, they’ve money, too.
The half one isn’t half at all[;] the whole one’s not so whole
and each of them, so full of self, sport[s] shoulders full of chips:
Oh “he said this” and long ago the other walked away 
and each one closed the door as well as [ / / ] mind and heart. 
Each thought “You need not contact me, for I have friends (which you
are not) and others who respect the worth of such as I.” 
Each one proclaimed the other lacked civility or sense 
or what comprises “right” [ / / / / / / / / ].

It’s sad today how easily the unimportant climbs
to pinnacles, to point of focus, far from matters true.
When rage and anger’s kin block out the route[']s alternative
of patience, or just “count to ten”, or “what’s behind this?” view.

I’ve written this today because the brother whole implodes 
at provocations minimal, and fury-full, strikes out 
responding to my disagreeing with his point of view. 
It’s not so much his boldface type or tone that worries me, 
but that this too short time we have invective-full will kill 
what chances that we have, as three, the last of living sibs, 
to say goodbye in wiser words, to reach out with a sense
of “okay, then, you had the right to be just who you are, 
and different, I my thing did do, and he went his way too.“

So one of us is old and g[r]ay[,] and one of us a crone[,] 
and one of us will need to know he’s not the only one
who cares that family unites before that enemy 
the scyther-guy, the reaper king laughs darkly at us all.

The older that we get we know we’re closer to the edge 
of what’s out there for anyone, and fear is not of that. 
The fear or dread is in the now, the facing up to facts: 
we’re given kin to know ourselves, we’re none of us perfect.
We’ll die. But let us do so, please, with such a sense that we 
did all we could to be what we’d be proud of when we fly,
there at that edge take off with [ / / ] full-face smile as wings.


deLightingly, Daniel  Cool
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Re: Blank Verse ~ Form of the Month September 2009
Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2009 at 5:54pm
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Heavy on my mind

A brother and a half have I 
and both of them are rich
in talent just as in ego. 
Well yes, they’ve money, too.
The half one isn’t half at all
the whole one’s not so whole
and each of them, so full of self,
sport shoulders full of chips:
Oh “he said this” and long ago
the other walked away and each one closed the door
as well as mind and heart. Each thought “You need not contact me,
for I have friends (which you are not) and others who respect
the worth of such as I.” Each one proclaimed the other lacked
civility or sense or what comprises “right”.

It’s sad today how easily the unimportant climbs
to pinnacles, to point of focus, far from matters true.
When rage and anger’s kin block out the routes alternative
of patience, or just “count to ten”, or “what’s behind this?” view.

I’ve written this today because the brother whole implodes 
at provocations minimal, and fury-full, strikes out responding to
my disagreeing with his point of view. It’s not so much his boldface
type or tone that worries me, but that this too short time we have
invective-full will kill what chances that we have, as three, the last of
living sibs, to say goodbye in wiser words, to reach out with a sense
of “okay, then, you had the right to be just who you are, and different, I
my thing did do, and he went his way too. “

So one of us is old and gay and one of us a crone and one of us 
will need to know he’s not the only one who cares that family unites
before that enemy the scyther-guy, the reaper king laughs darkly at us all.

The older that we get we know we’re closer to the edge of what’s out there
for anyone, and fear is not of that. The fear or dread is in the now, the facing 
up to facts: we’re given kin to know ourselves, we’re none of us perfect.
We’ll die. But let us do so, please, with such a sense that we did all we could
to be what we’d be proud of when we fly,
there at that edge
take off 
with full-face smile as wings. 

Carver 09/23/09
Daniel, I just wrote this, in minutes, but your blank verse section facilitated the effort. Pardon my purging my sadness here. The half brother's cancer, and my notifying the whole brother of it may just help a bit to bring all this true stuff to a decent close. Hope never croaks. We do.      
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Weather or Not
Reply #6 - Sep 18th, 2009 at 2:13am
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Weather or Not

A flat grey-green horizon spreads as far
as I can see this blustery afternoon;
it hints of rain, then slips a glimpse of sun
to tantalize our spirits once again.
This weather’s kept predictors on their toes...
or backs... or knees, appealing to their gods.
Their forecast changed a dozen times this week,
like yesterday: the beach was great until
the tide came rushing back beyond its bounds
the day before. The shore fumed at the waves
while frantically we moved our blankets, chairs,
the children and the things they’d scattered ‘round.
We’re back today, but not with all our stuff;
short day beneath the Music Pier’s enough.

© MLee Dickens'son 16 Sept 2009
  
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Re: Blank Verse ~ Form of the Month September 2009
Reply #5 - Sep 10th, 2009 at 11:34am
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Hey, Lady... great to see you again!

I'm pleased that you got your feet wet...

and let me help you see that your metric feet are downright soggy!!

Remember that 'blank verse' is equated not merely to writing unrhymed verse without meter (free verse), but with a specific meter... in fact in ONE specific meter:  iambic (daDUM)

Take another look, and you might come out with something like this in iambic tetrameter (4 daDUMS):

Quote:
So these silly words are fun to write
and easy practice in keeping up
with writing poems when feeling dry.
May this practice bring a flow of words,
quenching the thirsty need to express
the feeling something from me to you!


These SILly WORDS are FUN to WRITE
and EASy PRACtice, KEEPing UP
with POem-WRIting WHEN I'm DRY.
May PRACtice BRING a FLOW of WORDS
that QUENCH the THIRSty NEED to SHARE
these FEELings I now SEND to YOU.


Lightly editing, Daniel  Cool
  
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Re: Blank Verse ~ Form of the Month September 2009
Reply #4 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 4:15am
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So these silly words are fun to write
and easy practice in keeping up
with writing poems when feeling dry.
May this practice bring a flow of words,
quenching the thirsty need to express
the feeling something from me to you!

Gosh... that is some of the worst poetry I've ever written!  But it did do the job of getting my feet wet again.  Thanks Daniel for the challenge to get back on this writing horse! Roll Eyes

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Re: Blank Verse ~ Form of the Month September 2009
Reply #3 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 11:38am
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Here's one of my early tries at silly blank verse... but in eight (octameter) trochaic (DUMda) beats per line:

An Octametric DUMB-duh Blank Stare

O… that I could read with ease, those poets of the ages past… who
showed the world a better way, or poured their soul out on a parchment,
papered walls with diatribe, or filled a box with secret love-notes, 
published tomes of mirth and song, or drama, sonnets, endless iambs
stuffed onto an English stage, Italian verse or ruffled French toast
to someone I’d never heard about in my dyslectic studies
even with the help of tapes, encyclopedia, thesaurus,
on-line searches with dead ends that frustrate all the drive I generate.

© MLee Dickens'son 21 July 2004
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Reply #2 - Aug 11th, 2009 at 7:10am
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A Blank Stare 
short story with a long punch line


Short story with a very long punch line…
(I promise that I’ll keep it short… and long!)

A guy and gal, it seems, met up in church
and very soon they fell, head-over-heels!

Invited all the folks who worshipped there
to join their wedding, right there where they met.

Now every one of them  tee-totaled, see,
so their reception (at the church) was dry.

Well… that’s the long and short of it, my friends.
(And if you think… you’ll see I kept my word!)

© Daniel J Ricketts 28 July 2004
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Reply #1 - Nov 28th, 2003 at 5:49am
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Thanks Jess,

Robert Frost wrote a considerable amount of blank verse as in the following example from his poem 'Birches'

"When I see birches bend to left and right
Across the lines of straighter darker trees
I like to think some boy's been swinging them . . ."


Some extra helpful info about blank verse can be found by clicking here.

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Blank Verse ~ FOM Sep 09
Nov 23rd, 2003 at 9:35pm
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Blank Verse

Blank verse is composed traditionally of unrhymed iambic pentameter... although many today argue that it may be of any metrical pattern and number of feet per line, though the iamb is predominant.

Henry Howard (1517-1547) is considered the progenitor of the blank verse style of poetry. He utilized it in one of the early translations of the Virgil's Aeneid. Christopher Marlowe (1564-1593) adapted the style for dramatic effect in his plays, and, unsurprisingly, as contemporary of Shakespeare, the style was picked up and polished by the famous bard. 

Literary example from Shakespeare's Richard II: (III.iii)

HENRY BOLINGBROKE
   So that by this intelligence we learn 
   The Welshmen are dispersed, and Salisbury 
   Is gone to meet the king, who lately landed 
   With some few private friends upon this coast.


NORTHUMBERLAND
   The news is very fair and good, my lord: 
   Richard not far from hence hath hid his head.


DUKE OF YORK
   It would beseem the Lord Northumberland 
   To say 'King Richard:' alack the heavy day 
   When such a sacred king should hide his head
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