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Re: Rondelet
Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 8:21pm
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Heh heh, that's a clever one, Dan. And it's not a problem 'cause I like helping where I can.

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Reply #3 - Nov 16th, 2008 at 10:40am
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Thank you for your carefulness in sharing your corrective, Adam.  I deeply appreciate your concern for accuracy.  I have offered a change to the first panel now, including my clumsy poem.  I hope that it is more helpful now than it was previously misleading!

Here's my second attempt at the form:

A Red Face

His face is red
from having spouted out too soon;
his face is red
now that he sees what he had said
stirred up a gale in his lagoon;
though none his purpose would impugn
his face is red


© MLee Dickens'son 16 Nov 08
  
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Re: Rondolet
Reply #2 - Nov 15th, 2008 at 4:13am
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Dan ^
        |   Is this what you're looking for? Smiley Instead of posting a second time I just updated the first post, but I guess you missed it. But that's my fault, cause I never told ya. Tongue
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Re: Rondolet
Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2008 at 5:01pm
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Hey Daniel, just letting you know: the defintions that I've found for rondelet include that they are written with syllables: 4,8,4,8,8,8,4 as per the flow of lines. Smiley

I find that even though wikipedia isn't THE definitive online encyclopedia, it has helped me a lot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondelet

ciao for now...
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Rondelet
Aug 29th, 2008 at 1:12pm
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The Rondelet is another French form, and a member of the rondeau family.  That family of forms uses refrains. The challenge is to make the refrain one that is meaningful and memorable; it must fit the content of the poem as a whole.

The Rhyme Scheme of a rondelet is AbAabbA where the refrain is four syllables and all other lines eight syllables.  However, if one is writing accentual syllabic verse, it becomes a two-foot refrain and a four-foot line.

A
b
A  (refrain - entire first line)
a  (rhmes with first line)
b
b
A  (refrain - entire first line)

note: a refrain is a stanza, line, part of a line, or phrase which is normally pertinent to the central topic and is repeated verbatim, usually at regular intervals throughout a poem, and most often at the end of a stanza.


This was my first attempt at Rondelet, but I offer it as illustration, poor as it may be (and it was even worse before literarius' [Adam's] careful eye helped me to offer come correction to our description of the form!):

A Blood Line

The blood billows
from the drunken diver's fresh wound...
the blood billows
warmly from beneath the willows
where his young wife had moaned and swooned;
since she's in silence self-harpooned
the blood billows


© MLee Dickens'son 29 Aug 2008, rev. 16 Nov 08


Maybe someone else can give it a shot... but please, not with a loaded gun!

Lightly, Daniel  Cool
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